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Episodes
Thursday Jan 09, 2020
Thursday Jan 09, 2020
Episode 37 - LPL Pre-Season Tier List Spring 2020
Recorded on: January 8th, 2020
We hope everybody had an excellent holiday season but it's time to get back to work as we gear up for the 2020 competitively League of Legends season! We'll be doing our pre-season tier lists and power rankings for the four major regions (LPL, LCK, LCS, LEC) over the next couple of weeks to get them to you all before those respective seasons begin.
A big part of capping or playing daily fantasy for any sport is to have a concept of the relative strength of teams before games are played because there is frequently a big edge to be gained before we start getting data and sample size. It frames a lot of your comparisons, discussions, and early season decisions. Is this Team A being overrated? Underrated? How many things need to go right for this team to exceed their expectation? etc. etc. Often there is a lot of value because of price memory or perception from the previous year or name brand value compared to actual evaluation.
Ultimately we won't know exactly how things play out until we see it but it's a good excercise to get yourself well-versed on the regions you intend to focus on and prepare yourself for the year!
Intro
0:01:35 - Defining our tiers (Best to worst: S, A, B, C, D, F)
0:03:39 - LPL Tier List Discussion
Listed below is our tier list for the LPL. It's an aggregation our each of our individual rankings which all varied. The number in parenthesis is the average of our four rankings.
Aggregated Tier List
S+ Tier - FunPlus (1.0)
A Tier - JDG (2.25), TOP eSports (3.5), Invictus Gaming (4.5), OMG (5), Royal Never Give Up (5)
B Tier - BiliBili (8.25), EDward Gaming (8.5), LNG eSports (9), Vici Gaming (9.5), Dominus (10.7), Suning (11.2)
C Tier - Team WE (13.5)
D Tier - eStar (14.7), Rogue Warriors (15), Victory Five (15.2), LGD Gaming (15.2)
2019 Pick of the Week Records (Winnings assuming one unit on each bet):
Vince 18 - 15 (+3.72u)
John 19 - 13 (+14.13u)
Chris 15 - 15 (+6.52u)
Kalvin 4 - 23 - 1 (-11.64u)
As a cast: 56 - 66 (+12.73u)
Hosts:
Vince C @GelatiLOL
John George @TheEsportsPlug
Chris C @Prim3_T1m3
Kalvin @RulerrSama
The opening theme is "Clouds" by Harvey and the Hendersons (Instagram)(Facebook)
The closing theme is "Wasp in a Hat" by The Tea Club (Facebook)
Thursday Dec 19, 2019
Thursday Dec 19, 2019
Episode 36 - Hot Stove Season Part 2
Recorded on: December 19th, 2019
In our second episode of the offseason we dive into the news and announcements that have happened since our last recording (December 1st) and give you our thoughts and commentary. With the Demacia Cup starting on December 20th in China we give a quick betting run down of the four games on the Friday slate as well.
This will be our last episode of 2019 but we'll be starting off the new year with a ton of content for you all including episodes devoted to breaking down each major region individually, our thoughts on the rosters, pre-season power rankings, and more!
Enjoy your holidays and the New Year and we'll see you in 2020!
Intro
0:02:11 - North American News/Roster moves
0:29:39 - European News/Roster moves
0:49:10 - Korean News/Roster moves
1:03:55 - China News/Roster moves
1:22:18 - Demacia Cup Picks
1:27:48 - Announcing the Plug Challenge!
2019 Pick of the Week Records (Winnings assuming one unit on each bet):
Vince 18 - 15 (+3.72u)
John 19 - 13 (+14.13u)
Chris 15 - 15 (+6.52u)
Kalvin 4 - 23 - 1 (-11.64u)
As a cast: 56 - 66 (+12.73u)
Hosts:
Vince C @GelatiLOL
John George @TheEsportsPlug
Chris C @Prim3_T1m3
Kalvin @RulerrSama
The opening theme is "Clouds" by Harvey and the Hendersons (Instagram)(Facebook)
The closing theme is "Wasp in a Hat" by The Tea Club (Facebook)
Monday Dec 02, 2019
Monday Dec 02, 2019
Episode 35 - Hot Stove Season Part 1
Recorded on: December 1st, 2019
During the year we spend more or less every free moment we all have VOD reviewing, watching the games, and putting the work in for you all and as we mentioned we were going to be taking a few weeks off before diving into the offseason. We hope you've all enjoyed your downtime and the holidays but it's time to start looking at some of the offseason moves and announcements so far!
It's been a few weeks since the finale of the competitive league season with FunPlus Phoenix taking down the Season 9 title against G2. We open the discussion with our thoughts on the finals and try to put a punctuation mark on the end of 2019 and what we liked, didn't like, and more. From there we start going into the confirmed news that we know so far. For this cast we didn't want to spend too much time on rumors or speculation because there's not only a ton of moves but also didn't want to misreport anything to you all.
We have some big plans for this coming year but during the offseason (December and early January) we'll likely be releasing an episode every other week until about January when we have more finalized rosters and can begin to prepare for the competitive season in 2020.
Intro
0:02:11 - Brief Grand Finals Thoughts
0:12:35 - Putting a punctuation on 2019
News discussion we did by region.
0:15:22 - LPL (China)
0:34:42 - LCK (Korea)
1:00:40 - LEC (Europe)
1:14:00 - LCS (North America)
1:38:30 - Pick of the Week Recap for 2019
Pick of the Week Records (Winnings assuming one unit on each bet):
Vince 18 - 15 (+3.72u)
John 19 - 13 (+14.13u)
Chris 15 - 15 (+6.52u)
Kalvin 4 - 23 - 1 (-11.64u)
As a cast: 56 - 66 (+12.73u)
Hosts:
Vince C @GelatiLOL
John George @TheEsportsPlug
Chris C @Prim3_T1m3
Kalvin @RulerrSama
The opening theme is "Clouds" by Harvey and the Hendersons (Instagram)(Facebook)
The closing theme is "Wasp in a Hat" by The Tea Club (Facebook)
Friday Nov 08, 2019
Friday Nov 08, 2019
Episode 34 - Worlds 2019 Grand Finals
Recorded on: November 7th, 2019
We made it all the way through the year! Grand Finals on Sunday will mark the end of the competitive League season but we will be continuing to bring you content in the offseason! Hot stove discussion, some bigger picture topics, guests, and more! We haven't hammered out a schedule entirely yet but we'll let you know on the next show! (probably in a week or two after finals)
The full crew recaps the thrilling semifinals series between FPX/IG and SKT/G2 and our takeaways, including some lessons learned. From there we dive into the finals matchup, key players and strategic concepts, and our picks!
Enjoy the finals and like we mentioned above we will be having offseason content to stay tuned, rate and subscribe!
Intro
0:03:25 - Offseason "News" and plans for episodes during the offseason
0:06:05 - Semifinal 1: FunPlus Phoenix vs Invictus Gaming
0:23:01 - Semifinal 2: SK Telecom vs G2 eSports
0:41:55 - Grand Finals: FunPlus Phoenix vs G2 eSports
1:05:15 - Pick of the Week!
1:09:25 - Sign Offs
Pick of the Week Records (Winnings assuming one unit on each bet):
Vince 18 - 14 (+4.72u)
John 17 - 13 (+9.08u)
Chris 15 - 14 (+7.52u)
Kalvin 4 - 22 - 1 (-10.64u)
As a cast: 54 - 63 (+10.68u)
Hosts:
Vince C @GelatiLOL
John George @TheEsportsPlug
Chris C @Prim3_T1m3
Kalvin @RulerrSama
The opening theme is "Clouds" by Harvey and the Hendersons (Instagram)(Facebook)
The closing theme is "Wasp in a Hat" by The Tea Club (Facebook)
Wednesday Oct 30, 2019
Wednesday Oct 30, 2019
Episode 33 - Worlds 2019 Semifinals
Recorded on: October 27th and 29th, 2019
Due to some scheduling and technical issues we had to record this episode in two parts. I put them both together for this so it shouldn't be a big deal. The first portion was recorded more or less immediately after the matches Sunday and the second on Tuesday afternoon.
In the first hour John and Vince recap the quarterfinals. Stock up/down, notable moments, takeaways, and general thoughts on what they saw. Kalvin joins the second part of the cast and the crew breaks down the semifinal matchups and gives some of their selections.
Intro
0:01:12 - Quarterfinals General Recap
0:05:22 - Quarterfinal 1: Invictus vs Griffin
0:26:35 - Quarterfinal 2: Fnatic vs FunPlus
0:39:05 - Quarterfinal 3: SK Telecom vs Splyce
0:45:00 - Quarterfinal 4: G2 eSports vs DAMWON Gaming
Transition
0:57:40 - Semifinal 1: Invictus vs FunPlus
1:08:04 - Semifinal 2: SK Telecom vs G2 eSports
1:21:26 - Pick of the Week!
1:24:10 - Sign Offs
Pick of the Week Records (Winnings assuming one unit on each bet):
Vince 18 - 13 (+5.72u)
John 16 - 13 (+7.78u)
Chris 15 - 14 (+7.52u)
Kalvin 4 - 22 (-10.64u)
As a cast: 53 - 62 (+10.38u)
Hosts:
Vince C @GelatiLOL
John George @TheEsportsPlug
Chris C @Prim3_T1m3
Kalvin @RulerrSama
The opening theme is "Clouds" by Harvey and the Hendersons (Instagram)(Facebook)
The closing theme is "Wasp in a Hat" by The Tea Club (Facebook)
Thursday Oct 24, 2019
Thursday Oct 24, 2019
Episode 32 - Worlds 2019 Quarterfinals
Recorded on: October 23rd, 2019
Chris eventually made it even through a work emergency. That's dedication folks! Kalvin, John, and Vince open the cast up by breaking down the second round robin of the group stage. We go over some of our surprises, disappointments, and some ideas looking forward for these teams next year. We go on a bit of a tangent about the tournament format and Vince's beef with it as well as a couple proposed solutions. Then we break down our quarterfinals matchups and make our picks!
There was a short 20-30 second window where there were a few audio issues toward the end of the show where I accidentally turned my (Vince's) mic off. Appologies but didn't want to cut off the good points John made replying to the riveting silence!
Intro
0:01:10 - Group Stage Recaps
0:01:41 - Group B Recap
0:10:38 - Group A Recap
0:18:40 - Group C Recap
0:33:13 - Group D / Team Liquid
0:45:32 - Overall thoughts on the quarterfinal bracket
0:46:48 - Vince's tangent on the tournament format
0:56:43 - Quarterfinal: Invictus Gaming (2) vs Griffin (1)
1:13:00 - Quarterfinal: Fnatic (2) vs FunPlus Phoenix (1)
1:26:32 - Quarterfinal: G2 eSports (2) vs DAMWON Gaming (1)
1:35:35 - Quarterfinal: Splyce (2) vs SK Telecom T1 (1)
1:43:40 - Pick of the Week!
1:51:00 - Sign Offs
John's Quarterfinals breakdown at OraclesElixir.com
Vince's Picks/Analysis Blog
Pick of the Week Records (Winnings assuming one unit on each bet):
Vince 17 - 13 (+4.95u)
John 16 - 13 (+7.78u)
Chris 14 - 14 (+6.17u)
Kalvin 4 - 21 (-9.64u)
As a cast: 51 - 61 (+9.26u)
Hosts:
Vince C @GelatiLOL
John George @TheEsportsPlug
Chris C @Prim3_T1m3
Kalvin @RulerrSama
The opening theme is "Clouds" by Harvey and the Hendersons (Instagram)(Facebook)
The closing theme is "Wasp in a Hat" by The Tea Club (Facebook)
Wednesday Oct 16, 2019
Wednesday Oct 16, 2019
Episode 31 - Worlds 2019 Group Stage
Recorded on: October 15th, 2019
The full gang breaks down the first half of the Main Event Group Stage, major takeaways, what matters, what doesn't, and looking forward to the next half and who we think is getting out of groups.
This episode ran quite long but we really wanted to figure out what everyone thought mattered and what didn't and we're all just generally really excited! It's been a crazy tournament and we think it's going to continue to be!
Intro
0:01:35 - Group A
0:21:00 - Group B
0:41:45 - Group C
0:57:17 - Group D
1:21:19 - Patch/Meta: What we were wrong about and why we're seeing so many "weird" bot lanes.
1:34:45 - Betting Slate
2:08:52- Pick of the Week!
2:10:09 - Sign Offs
John's Futures Article @ Oracle's Elixir
John's Game Changers Article @ Oracle's Elixir
John's Worlds Power Rankings @ Oracle's Elixir
Vince's Picks/Analysis Blog
Pick of the Week Records (Winnings assuming one unit on each bet):
Vince 17 - 13 (+5.95u)
John 15 - 13 (+5.38u)
Chris 15 - 13 (+7.17u)
Kalvin 4 - 20 (-8.64u)
As a cast: 50 - 58 (+9.86u)
Hosts:
Vince C @GelatiLOL
John George @TheEsportsPlug
Chris C @Prim3_T1m3
Kalvin @RulerrSama
The opening theme is "Clouds" by Harvey and the Hendersons (Instagram)(Facebook)
The closing theme is "Wasp in a Hat" by The Tea Club (Facebook)
Wednesday Oct 09, 2019
Wednesday Oct 09, 2019
Episode 30 - World Championships 2019 Play-In Recap and Main Event Group Stage
Recorded on: October 8th, 2019
Chris, John, Vince, and eventually Kalvin break down their takeaways from the Play-in stage including disappointments, surprises, and a lot of big picture philosophical concepts like not drawing conclusions from 4-6 individual games about an entire region and some other misconceptions. After that they break down the different complexions of all four groups and, of course, give their predictions on who gets to go on in the tournament and why. This was one of the longest episodes of TGCP but this is the World Championships!! You can feel the anticipation!
Intro
0:02:12 - Play-In Stage Recap (we spend a lot of time but included in this is our letdowns, surprises, and overall thoughts)
0:34:00 - Main Event - Group D: Liquid, AHQ, Invictus, DAMWON
0:46:29 - Main Event - Group C: SK Telecom, Fnatic, Royal Never Give Up, Clutch Gaming
1:15:35 - Main Event - Group B: FunPlus Phoenix, JTeam, GAM eSports, Splyce
1:32:12 - Main Event - Group A: G2 eSports, Griffin, Cloud 9, Hong Kong Attitude
1:39:45 - Betting Slate (for the lines we have so far)
1:49:18 - Pick of the Week!
1:50:43 - Podcast Props (Tournament MVP, Surprise player, Biggest disappointment)
2:11:14 - Sign Offs
John's Futures Article @ Oracle's Elixir
John's Game Changers Article @ Oracle's Elixir
John's Worlds Power Rankings @ Oracle's Elixir
Vince's Picks/Analysis Blog
Pick of the Week Records (Winnings assuming one unit on each bet):
Vince 16 - 13 (+4.98u)
John 14 - 13 (+6.38u)
Chris 15 - 12 (+8.17u)
Kalvin 4 - 19 (-7.64u)
As a cast: 50 - 55 (+11.86u)
Hosts:
Vince C @GelatiLOL
John George @TheEsportsPlug
Chris C @Prim3_T1m3
Kalvin @RulerrSama
The opening theme is "Clouds" by Harvey and the Hendersons (Instagram)(Facebook)
The closing theme is "Wasp in a Hat" by The Tea Club (Facebook)
Sunday Sep 29, 2019
Sunday Sep 29, 2019
Episode 29 - World Championships 2019 Play-In Stage
Recorded on: September 28th, 2019
John, Chris, and Vince break down some news leading up to the tournament, Patch 9.19 changes and meta considerations, the slate for Wednesday and Thursday of the 2019 World Championship Play-In Stage, and some general predictions and futures for the Main Event. Discussing emerging regions, players to watch, price memory as a concept, joking along the way as we celebrate the beginning of what we all think might be the best worlds tournament ever.
Intro
0:01:45 - What's been goin' on the last few weeks? (EU Masters)
0:06:06 - News: Pre-tournament coaching changes for Griffin and Invictus
0:24:37 - Patch 9.17 through Patch 9.19 changes since regional playoffs to attempt to predict worlds meta
0:42:22 - TL:DR Big picture Worlds Meta predictions
0:45:40 - Wednesday/Thursday Slate (we digress a lot about general takes on this and just use slate as reference)
1:28:17 - Futures Wagers
1:42:49 - Pick of the Week!
1:43:45 - Listener Questions
1:48:00 - Sign Offs
John's Futures Article @ Oracle's Elixir
John's Game Changers Article @ Oracle's Elixir
John's Worlds Power Rankings @ Oracle's Elixir
Pick of the Week Records (Winnings assuming one unit on each bet):
Vince 16 - 11 (+4.98u)
John 14 - 11 (+7.38u)
Chris 13 - 12 (+6.42u)
Kalvin 4 - 19 (-7.64u)
As a cast: 47 - 53 (+11.4u)
Hosts:
Vince C @GelatiLOL
John George @TheEsportsPlug
Chris C @Prim3_T1m3
Kalvin @RulerrSama
The opening theme is "Clouds" by Harvey and the Hendersons (Instagram)(Facebook)
The closing theme is "Wasp in a Hat" by The Tea Club (Facebook)
Wednesday Sep 04, 2019
Wednesday Sep 04, 2019
Episode 28 - Playoffs? You kiddin' me?
Recorded on: September 3rd, 2019
The full cast recaps this past weekends' matches which included LCK Finals, LPL playoffs, and LEC playoffs and looks forward to upcoming gauntlet matches in Korea and North America as well as European and LPL semis and finals.
Intro
0:01:07 - Recap of this past weekends' matches.
0:31:30- LCK Regional Qualifer Gauntlet Round 2: Kingzone vs Sandbox
0:42:23 - LPL Grand Finals: Royal Never Give Up vs FunPlus Phoenix
0:51:54 - North American LCS Regional Qualifier Gauntlet: Clutch vs FlyQuest
0:56:54 - LEC Semifinals: Fnatic vs Schalke 04
1:00:24 - Pick of the Week!
1:21:08 - Sign Offs
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Pick of the Week Records (Winnings assuming one unit on each bet):
Vince 15 - 11 (+4.39u)
John 13 - 11 (+4.45u)
Chris 13 - 11 (+7.42u)
Kalvin 3 - 19 (-8.86u)
As a cast: 44 - 52 (+7.4u)
Hosts:
Vince C @GelatiLOL
John George @TheEsportsPlug
Chris C @Prim3_T1m3
Kalvin @RulerrSama
The opening theme is "Clouds" by Harvey and the Hendersons (Instagram)(Facebook)
The closing theme is "Wasp in a Hat" by The Tea Club (Facebook)